NNOOO DOUUUUUUUUG!!

"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12)
08/03/2018 at 19:59 • Filed to: None

You’re WRONNNG! Australia also got the hideous circle lights and and how DARE you compare some jumped up FWD hatch to the 3000GT/NSX/Supra and who the hell cares that it’s technically a hatchback nobody else that’s who only the Americans fixate on that bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!

DISCUSSION (44)

interstate366, now In The Industry > Nauraushaun
08/03/2018 at 20:22

TIL you’ve never seen one of these on the track. Although I agree with you about the headlights.

Nauraushaun > interstate366, now In The Industry
08/03/2018 at 20:26

I’m sure they’re plenty fast, but they’re just in a completely different ballpark to the cars he compared them to. Big 6-cyl sports/luxury flagship models against this?

interstate366, now In The Industry > Nauraushaun
08/03/2018 at 20:31

Best Motoring put one against a GT-R. The result was much, much closer than you’d expect.

If you still hate on them after watching this there’s nothing I can say to you that wouldn’t get me banned. Also, you’d have to pay me to take a 3000GT.

Nauraushaun > interstate366, now In The Industry
08/03/2018 at 20:41

Haha, you misunderstand. I’m not hating on them. I just think the Supra/NSX/300ZX/SVX/3000GT/GT-R are in one spectrum and the Evo/Rex/ITR/Any Type R really/Celica GT-Four are in another. It’s the big heavy luxury bruisers vs the lighter, smaller sports cars.

It’s not even about speed per se. The Evos are probably faster than a lot of the bigger cars with the bigger engines (looking at you, non-turbo models!). It’s just apples and oranges.

LOREM IPSUM > Nauraushaun
08/03/2018 at 20:59

You're not wrong, but I'd still cross shop all of the above, given the opportunity.

2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered > Nauraushaun
08/03/2018 at 21:26

Who pisse d in your Cheerios?

Nauraushaun > 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered
08/03/2018 at 21:40

Everyone and no one :(

Nauraushaun > LOREM IPSUM
08/03/2018 at 21:41

Haha fair enough! As someone who made a deliberate move from 300ZX ownership to MR2 ownership to get into something lighter, maybe I’m more obsessed with the roles the cars fill

razorbeamteam > Nauraushaun
08/03/2018 at 21:47

My buddy just paid way too much for one on BAT, I get the appeal, but not the price

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > razorbeamteam
08/03/2018 at 21:50

Speculative car market is a scourge for regular folk. A FWD fancy Honda that’s 20 years old should NOT cost five figures. Soon, affordable fun used cars will be a thing of the past.

M.T. Blake > Nauraushaun
08/03/2018 at 21:51

Take the SVX away from my beloved Z32!

M.T. Blake > Nauraushaun
08/03/2018 at 21:53

Doug is right about one thing - They’re expensive and will continue to be expensive because there are few remaining. Don’t try the ‘well you can import one from Japan’ crap with me! Those are RHD and it’s a pain to live with!

interstate366, now In The Industry > M.T. Blake
08/03/2018 at 22:17

Eh, I don’t have a problem with it if it’s not for a DD. Which these weren’t meant to be. Plus the JDM ones have the better-looking front end, and sedan versions.

LOREM IPSUM > Nauraushaun
08/03/2018 at 22:26

Can't say as I blame you. As much as I like Z cars, I think I'd opt for a MR2 of that vintage as well. Turbo, if possible, but it's not like they're plentiful enough to be all that picky.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered
08/03/2018 at 22:26

*froot loops

Nauraushaun > M.T. Blake
08/03/2018 at 22:42

You are correct. They built so FEW!

Australia had very few locally sold Lancer Evos, most in the country are imported especially the earlier cars. They’re all same-hand-drive but the local ones still command a huge premium. They’ve got a better history and are easier to live with.

I can only imagine it’s more so for a LHD market.

Nauraushaun > M.T. Blake
08/03/2018 at 22:42

They all stand together but individual.

Nauraushaun > razorbeamteam
08/03/2018 at 22:43

Yeah, check the price in ten years. That car will never depreciate.

Nauraushaun > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/03/2018 at 22:43

Unicorns like this maybe. Some will still be out there.

Nauraushaun > LOREM IPSUM
08/03/2018 at 22:44

Non turbo for me, sadly. Quick enough

Nauraushaun > interstate366, now In The Industry
08/03/2018 at 22:46

I’d say these were meant to be DD’d, based on the fact that despite the apparent insane dedication to weight loss, they’ll still seat 5. I haven’t driven one (or gotten to the driving part of the vid yet, lol) but I ’d be surprised if they’re even as uncivilized as an Evo 6

interstate366, now In The Industry > Nauraushaun
08/03/2018 at 23:07

Not necessarily...some of them didn’t have AC, for example (mainly the early ones).

Nauraushaun > interstate366, now In The Industry
08/03/2018 at 23:25

Was it not optional?

Also Wikipedia says the base spec of that gen Integra didn’t have AC either. Is that not a DD? ;)

interstate366, now In The Industry > Nauraushaun
08/03/2018 at 23:58

Looks like it was a dealer option in 97/98 and standard after that. For some reason the US didn’t get the ITR in 1999 (though Canada did) but got it again in 2000 and 2001. And by base model, do you mean the export version, or the sad JDM one that was still carbureted in the mid 90s? Because my answer depends on which of those you mean.

Of course, you *can* DD any car you want. There are just lots of vehicles where you’d have to be at least a bit of a masochist to do so and the ITR is one of them.

Nauraushaun > interstate366, now In The Industry
08/04/2018 at 00:14

Apparently it had a non-carb B18B1, not sure if it was an export model. It’s so hard to get real specific market stats.

I have a friend who DD’d his Evo 6 TME. He grew to hate it and no longer drives it.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Nauraushaun
08/04/2018 at 00:32

Yeah, that’d be the export model (most likely the USDM one). The JDM base models the first couple years were called the ZX and had a carbureted D-series. The next one up was the ZXi, which still had a D-series but at least got fuel injection. There aren’t any ZX’s currently on Goo-Net, but I found one ZXi. It does have AC, at least.

http://www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/HONDA/INTEGRA/700056136930180704001/index.html

Nauraushaun > interstate366, now In The Industry
08/04/2018 at 01:05

I’ve seen that sort of thing before - weird JDM only base models with carburettors, even in the late 90s. I wonder what the point is? Surely, though cheaper, the performance and economy is poor enough to make them not worth selling...

M.T. Blake > interstate366, now In The Industry
08/04/2018 at 02:08

*Meant to be DD and being an EXCELLENT DD are two different things. I know someone who drove one through High School and into college. Must have put 200k miles on it. He loved it. I’d love to have one as a DD. It’s just a bit faster than normal Integra. Nothing really more. The rest of the things that make it different are for car nerds like us to geek over.

M.T. Blake > interstate366, now In The Industry
08/04/2018 at 02:09

Wouldn’t bother the 20 year old version of me. I was poor and couldn’t afford working A/C. Wet your shirt and continue on with the road trip!

M.T. Blake > Nauraushaun
08/04/2018 at 02:12

Okay. But mark my words, “The SVX will never be more valuable than the others in its contemporary category.”

Nauraushaun > M.T. Blake
08/04/2018 at 05:36

I can see it overtaking the 300ZX. It’s much more uncommon, and weirder. I love the Z but most people see it as a slower, fatter, less advanced stablemate to the 3000GT/Supra/RX7 despite the fact that it was on sale for longer and sold more units than all 3.

People miss how it reinvigorated the whole sports car game. How it was what owners wanted, not what children wanted. All that stuff has faded out of memory.

It won’t shoot up like the Supra. And the SVX’s weird factor might win out.

M.T. Blake > Nauraushaun
08/04/2018 at 08:07

If Dom Toretto drove a 300zx instead of a Supra we might be seeing something different in the market.

Nauraushaun > M.T. Blake
08/04/2018 at 09:15

Haha. Maybe. But the kids like faster cars. I feel the less focused 300ZX was never going to win the hearts of the children who are becoming buyers and setting the prices.

Like how nobody has a poster of a 456/612/FF on their wall when they could have an F50 or Enzo. But the 612 of course outsold them all, even the 550. It’s what buyers (old men) wanted, but later it’ll be the 550 that appreciates better.

M.T. Blake > Nauraushaun
08/04/2018 at 09:53

I had a 6’ long poster of a red Testarossa. Even took it with me to college. It got so beat up over the years, I finally HAD to throw it away. Scotch tape was everywhere holding it together. I don’t know if I’d ever buy one knowing what else is out there now. The 550M is delicious.

But I keep coming back to the 300zx, especially considering I can’t afford Ferrari . But like the Testarossa, I don’t know if I’ll buy another knowing what I know now. I really want a FD RX7 or NSX!

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > Nauraushaun
08/04/2018 at 14:26

It’s a cool car, but not US$40k cool.

Nauraushaun > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
08/04/2018 at 22:15

Repeat that in 10 years when it’s a 100k car, like it or not! I’m not sure if I agree or not. Not a huge fan but there’s certainly nothing remotely like it on the market today, or for the last decade.

Nauraushaun > M.T. Blake
08/04/2018 at 22:19

NSX is top of the tree for me. But I wouldn’t buy unless I had a garage, and I think they’ll be well out of reach by then.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > Nauraushaun
08/04/2018 at 22:40

Meh. You’d have to be a die-hard FWD fanboi or a production numbers nut to want an ITR over a $15k 986 Boxster S.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > Nauraushaun
08/04/2018 at 22:43

Thank goodness there is now an LHD CTR to dilute the ITR market. Otherwise it might be even higher.

Nauraushaun > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
08/04/2018 at 23:22

Yeah it is a bit like that isn’t it? It might be more focused than most of the cars you can buy these days, but it’s still a FWD 4-cyl. You don’t get a lot of performance for that money.

I’d buy an MR2.

Nauraushaun > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
08/04/2018 at 23:23

You mean the current one? Not the same thing though right, not by a country mile?

M.T. Blake > Nauraushaun
08/05/2018 at 00:48

They’re already out of reach of most people considering cheap ones are 30-large. I might (keyword) be able to afford one if I sold my other toys.

Nauraushaun > M.T. Blake
08/05/2018 at 01:11

THIRTY?! The cheapest NSX for sale in Australia is more than 3x that price, with 139000 miles on it

M.T. Blake > Nauraushaun
08/05/2018 at 01:34

Things are different on the other side of the equator. Toilets flush the opposite direction and the NSX is cheaper.